Talk:Zenitsu Agatsuma/@comment-2168633-20191016131141/@comment-2168633-20200124192204

@The Peterphile

I based my assessment of him on his manga version. He is your typicakl annoying side-character that becomes glorified and gets to become "almost as good as the MC" while lacking any of the redeeming qualities the MC has. I mean, you could argue that the MC can be annoying at times too... but he isn't a side-character that is used as a gag-relief. My point here is that Zenitsu is a joke character that should have been killed off long ago. The pig guy also added comedy, but his character was never introduced as a whiny coward. Frankly speaking, I don't just think Zenitsu is annoying, I practically loathe his type of character. They are always shoehorned into the stories and they always make you want to kill them.... not because they are annotying, but because the author keeps them around while making them mary sues.

@Toopretty

Yes, not everyone could be brave, but that is just the problem. Zwenitsu is the type of character that plays too much on the coward aspect. When he "mans up" it just comes off as a lie and he feels even more disgenuine. He really is weak, he could only use one of the techniques... and that is why he is a mary sue. Him perfecting one single technique is nice and all, but that shouldn't have allowed him to survive nor should it have allowed him to come up with his own technique based around it. That just reeks of Mary Sueiness. Liek take for instance when he fell asleep and out of nowhere was able to fight at such high level because his subcoscious was supposed to be manly? No, that crap just made him even more unlikeable. A character that acts like a whiny pathetic coward while being bad at everything... is somehow better than almost everyone because reasons. Disgusting.