Talk:Kyojuro Rengoku/@comment-38258081-20191207221004/@comment-38258081-20191210170930

I would agree with you, but the fact that Shinobu can't cut off the head of any medium to high level demon is what drags her down to the bottom for me. Yes, she has powerful poisons, but it is shown that upper moons can shrug it off quite easily drags her down. And I am not counting the poison she weakened upper moon 2 with after he ate her, because I don't count special moves that suicde the user in feats due to them being only able to be used once and they result in death of the user. Obanai would be the lowest, but he was the one to "cut" off Muzan's head recently, so I percive that as him being somewhat stronger than Shinobu. I also realized, if Tengen had a completed "score" from observing a fight, he would probably raise up a couple spots. He was actually able to match upper moon 6 blow-for-blow, even with one missing hand, once his "score" was complete. However, that is very situational, so I will not count it.