Talk:Hashira/@comment-43791872-20190911064222/@comment-34475357-20190922030529

True, Humans can only train so much, even training near death, they still cannot match the power of centuries old apex predators.

Most of the pillars cannot win against an upper moon in a 1v1 head on battle. Except Gyomei, he fought toe to toe with Upper moon 1, the strongest of the 12 demon moons. upper moon 1 even admitted that he never fought someone as strong as Gyomei for 300 years.

But that is only because Gyomei has inhuman strength. So unless a human is gifted with super strength, Upper moons are still far more powerful than pillars.